Hendrick was baptized in the Reformed Dutch Church of Albany, New York, on 24 September 1713. His name was recorded as Hendrik and his parents' names were recorded as Jan and Catryntie Van Wie. Agnitie Van Wie witnessed the baptism.[1]
The marriage of Hendrik Jansze Van Wie and Cornelia Van den Bergh was recorded in the Reformed Dutch Church of Albany, New York, on 2 March 1744. It was the first marriage for both.[2]
Church Records
Baptism
1713. Sept. 24. Hendrik, of Jan and Catryntie Van Wie. Wit.: Agnitie Van Wie.
Marriage
1744. March 2. L. Hendrik Jansze Van Wie, y.m., and Cornelia Van den Bergh, y.d.
Baptismal witness
1737. Aug. 28. Catharyna, of Gerrit Japikse Lansing and Yda Lansing. Wit.: Hendrik Janse VanWie, Catharyna Van Wie.[3]
↑ Records of the Reformed Dutch Church of Albany, New York, 1683–1809
Excerpted from Year Books of the Holland Society of New York. Part 3, page 14.
↑ Records of the Reformed Dutch Church of Albany, New York, 1683–1809, Excerpted from Year Books of the Holland Society of New York. Part 3, page 69.
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WikiTree profile Van Wie-15 created through the import of davisfamilytree-1.ged on Sep 1, 2012 by Rich Davis. See the Wie-15 Changes page for the details of edits by Rich and others.
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Is it possible Cornelia died and he remarried? I don't have a marriage record but I do have baptism for https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Van_Wie-108, daughter of Henrick Van Wie and Maria Loeck. Dutch Reformed in Albany New York so it seems like the right father.
Disclaimer: I know very little about this man. I adopted the profile about 4 years ago while I was working on merging duplicates, and I kept my name on it so it would not be an orphan. I know less about the wife. There is a record of his marrying a Cornelia van den Bergh. The profile for the wife is one that probably was created for someone entirely different (in Belgium or South Africa, or both), but somehow ended up connected to Hendrick. The genealogies of the van Wie and van den Bergh families of the Albany area have not been developed very well; many of their profiles came from Gedcom imports of content whose original origins are undeterminable.
Your hypothesis is possible, but I think it may be more complicated than that. Because the first settler in this family was named Hendrick and because Dutch people traditionally named the first son for the paternal grandfather (and would give that name to a later-born son if the first onw died), there was a surfeit of men named Hendrick van Wie in the Albany area at this time. It helps tremendously when the records include their patronymic names (identifying their fathers), and the names of the children (the first two of each gender typically were named for the 4 grandparents) and the baptism witnesses for the children's baptisms often are very helpful in disambiguating people with the same name. This man is Hendrick Jansz. He had first cousins Hendrick Gerritse, born 1703 and Hendrik Hendrickse, born 1717. Since seeing your message, I have spent a lot of time looking at records for these men, and I have found that both of these two first cousins are accounted for with other spouses as late as the early 1750s (I have not looked much after that time period).
After looking at the Albany records for men named Hendrik Van Wie, I actually wonder if this Hendrick Jansze survived for very long after his marriage. Not only did I found no records of children with Cornelia, but I have not seen his name as a baptismal witness in the years after the marriage -- but this may simply mean that he moved rather far away from Albany to a place with another church. (I think it would have to be somewhere farther away from Albany than Bethlehem.)
I think it is reasonably likely that there was an additional male named Hendrick van Wie (records not yet found) who married circa 1760 and had daughter Agnietje in 1765. Between 1683 (when the earliest surviving Albany record book commences) and the mid-1700s, new churches were formed in many settlements in the Albany region, so the Albany church was no longer the only place where baptisms were done for the greater Albany region, and the easily searchable Albany records (my favorite source for finding them is https://mathcs.clarku.edu/~djoyce/gen/albany/refchurch.html ) need to be supplemented by records from other places. Some [laces have records on familysearch as index records, some are online at other free sources, and some (like Claverack and Kinderhook) are online at Ancestry.com or in the NY Genealogical and Biographical Record even if they are not online for free; but unfortunately not all are available electronically anywhere. Because Gerrit Van Wie (father of Hendrick Gerritse) was married to a woman named Agnietje, I wonder if this girl's father was a descendant of the Gerrit Van Wie family line. The profile of Hendrick G. shows a son named Hendrick born in 1747, but it would be very unusual for a man in this society to marry as young as 18, so I don't see that son as a candidate.
My bottom line is that it is too soon to connect this man to Van_Wie-108.
PS: Between 1735 and 1749 Hendrick Gerritse van Wie (born 1703) is shown in the records as Hendrick Jr., suggesting that there was an older Hendrick van Wie still living from whom he needed to be distinguished. I guess that must be Hendrick Hendrickse, baptized 1689, father of Hendrik Hendrickse, born 1717 (who is said to have died in 1744, but without a source).
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Disclaimer: I know very little about this man. I adopted the profile about 4 years ago while I was working on merging duplicates, and I kept my name on it so it would not be an orphan. I know less about the wife. There is a record of his marrying a Cornelia van den Bergh. The profile for the wife is one that probably was created for someone entirely different (in Belgium or South Africa, or both), but somehow ended up connected to Hendrick. The genealogies of the van Wie and van den Bergh families of the Albany area have not been developed very well; many of their profiles came from Gedcom imports of content whose original origins are undeterminable.
Your hypothesis is possible, but I think it may be more complicated than that. Because the first settler in this family was named Hendrick and because Dutch people traditionally named the first son for the paternal grandfather (and would give that name to a later-born son if the first onw died), there was a surfeit of men named Hendrick van Wie in the Albany area at this time. It helps tremendously when the records include their patronymic names (identifying their fathers), and the names of the children (the first two of each gender typically were named for the 4 grandparents) and the baptism witnesses for the children's baptisms often are very helpful in disambiguating people with the same name. This man is Hendrick Jansz. He had first cousins Hendrick Gerritse, born 1703 and Hendrik Hendrickse, born 1717. Since seeing your message, I have spent a lot of time looking at records for these men, and I have found that both of these two first cousins are accounted for with other spouses as late as the early 1750s (I have not looked much after that time period).
After looking at the Albany records for men named Hendrik Van Wie, I actually wonder if this Hendrick Jansze survived for very long after his marriage. Not only did I found no records of children with Cornelia, but I have not seen his name as a baptismal witness in the years after the marriage -- but this may simply mean that he moved rather far away from Albany to a place with another church. (I think it would have to be somewhere farther away from Albany than Bethlehem.)
I think it is reasonably likely that there was an additional male named Hendrick van Wie (records not yet found) who married circa 1760 and had daughter Agnietje in 1765. Between 1683 (when the earliest surviving Albany record book commences) and the mid-1700s, new churches were formed in many settlements in the Albany region, so the Albany church was no longer the only place where baptisms were done for the greater Albany region, and the easily searchable Albany records (my favorite source for finding them is https://mathcs.clarku.edu/~djoyce/gen/albany/refchurch.html ) need to be supplemented by records from other places. Some [laces have records on familysearch as index records, some are online at other free sources, and some (like Claverack and Kinderhook) are online at Ancestry.com or in the NY Genealogical and Biographical Record even if they are not online for free; but unfortunately not all are available electronically anywhere. Because Gerrit Van Wie (father of Hendrick Gerritse) was married to a woman named Agnietje, I wonder if this girl's father was a descendant of the Gerrit Van Wie family line. The profile of Hendrick G. shows a son named Hendrick born in 1747, but it would be very unusual for a man in this society to marry as young as 18, so I don't see that son as a candidate.
My bottom line is that it is too soon to connect this man to Van_Wie-108.
PS: Between 1735 and 1749 Hendrick Gerritse van Wie (born 1703) is shown in the records as Hendrick Jr., suggesting that there was an older Hendrick van Wie still living from whom he needed to be distinguished. I guess that must be Hendrick Hendrickse, baptized 1689, father of Hendrik Hendrickse, born 1717 (who is said to have died in 1744, but without a source).
edited by Ellen Smith